Miss Parker (
yourunichase) wrote2011-07-24 12:00 pm
Considerations.
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You know, I fucking hate warden politics. I try to stay out of this shit as much as I can but there are somethings I just can't let go on. For those of you who don't know, I was an inmate before I was a warden, [Like that wasn't evident in your last post, Parker.] and because of that, I find myself on one side of an issue more often than not. I've been holding onto this post for people to cool the fuck off, including me, but now I think it's really important and we need to talk about this.
My point from before still stands: there needs to be a fucking line somewhere. This point isn't about Nygma, and it's not about Snape, Mozenarth, Shego or anyone else involved with that incident. I am speaking now about a general fucking issue: invasion of inmate's privacy. I'm not just talking about rooms, I'm talking about filters, and I'm talking about people's very fucking minds.
I'm not talking about the personal-one-on-one warden-inmate relationship. I know not all tactics are going to fucking work on all inmates, and there are some who will need special circumstances. This isn't about that. This is about another warden becoming involved in the situation. When someone else does this to your inmate, it undermines the very thing that makes the Barge work. And it does work--you have fucking people here who showed just how much it works. Me talking to right the fuck now is proof that it does.
I'm also not saying that there shouldn't be some sort of peer review in the case of extreme circumstances someone's own inmate. Abuse, sexual relationships, violence, all of these things are things that wardens shouldn't do to their inmates. People should be shut down over that shit, and it shouldn't be one fucking person to do it. It should be us, working together as much as we fucking can.
I'm not an idiot. I know we suck at this sort of thing. But allowing precedent for this sort of thing is bullshit. We all know that if we let it stand, then some asshole is going to come along and do it again. And so it goes and so it goes until none of the inmates feel safe. And then it'll start on the wardens and people will be accused of defending their inmates which is what they fucking should be doing. It's what we all should be doing. Don't let this fucking stand.
We can't demote people. The Admiral is the only person who can fucking do that, and we know that he doesn't listen to us. But it is in our right to use other things we can do. We can call for a vote of no confidence in Edward Ngyma. What this would mean is that we don't accept him as a warden. I sure the fuck don't. His actions were what created this situation, and he screwed up. He should be punished for it, and we shouldn't rubber stamp shit because we're tired, or we're sick of this, or we want things to go back to normal. Fuck that. Let's all do our jobs here. Let's do our duties to our inmates.
[Bad Ass Women's filter+Everyone Parker's ever drank/played poker with. If you think you're on there, you probably are. People especially on there: Cooper, Sirius, Tosh.]
I don't know about you guys, but I could use a game of cards. And a fucking barrel of scotch. Anyone interested?
Robes, if you cheat, I'm going to shoot you in the foot. [Admission she's staying.]
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Atia wants to work there. She's going to be a fucking pain in the ass and I'm sorry for it. You're going to need to watch her like a hawk, but she needs to learn compassion from somewhere.
If she gets too bitchy, schedule her for mornings and I'll come in and do it with her.Fuck.
You know, I fucking hate warden politics. I try to stay out of this shit as much as I can but there are somethings I just can't let go on. For those of you who don't know, I was an inmate before I was a warden, [Like that wasn't evident in your last post, Parker.] and because of that, I find myself on one side of an issue more often than not. I've been holding onto this post for people to cool the fuck off, including me, but now I think it's really important and we need to talk about this.
My point from before still stands: there needs to be a fucking line somewhere. This point isn't about Nygma, and it's not about Snape, Mozenarth, Shego or anyone else involved with that incident. I am speaking now about a general fucking issue: invasion of inmate's privacy. I'm not just talking about rooms, I'm talking about filters, and I'm talking about people's very fucking minds.
I'm not talking about the personal-one-on-one warden-inmate relationship. I know not all tactics are going to fucking work on all inmates, and there are some who will need special circumstances. This isn't about that. This is about another warden becoming involved in the situation. When someone else does this to your inmate, it undermines the very thing that makes the Barge work. And it does work--you have fucking people here who showed just how much it works. Me talking to right the fuck now is proof that it does.
I'm also not saying that there shouldn't be some sort of peer review in the case of extreme circumstances someone's own inmate. Abuse, sexual relationships, violence, all of these things are things that wardens shouldn't do to their inmates. People should be shut down over that shit, and it shouldn't be one fucking person to do it. It should be us, working together as much as we fucking can.
I'm not an idiot. I know we suck at this sort of thing. But allowing precedent for this sort of thing is bullshit. We all know that if we let it stand, then some asshole is going to come along and do it again. And so it goes and so it goes until none of the inmates feel safe. And then it'll start on the wardens and people will be accused of defending their inmates which is what they fucking should be doing. It's what we all should be doing. Don't let this fucking stand.
We can't demote people. The Admiral is the only person who can fucking do that, and we know that he doesn't listen to us. But it is in our right to use other things we can do. We can call for a vote of no confidence in Edward Ngyma. What this would mean is that we don't accept him as a warden. I sure the fuck don't. His actions were what created this situation, and he screwed up. He should be punished for it, and we shouldn't rubber stamp shit because we're tired, or we're sick of this, or we want things to go back to normal. Fuck that. Let's all do our jobs here. Let's do our duties to our inmates.
[Bad Ass Women's filter+Everyone Parker's ever drank/played poker with. If you think you're on there, you probably are. People especially on there: Cooper, Sirius, Tosh.]
I don't know about you guys, but I could use a game of cards. And a fucking barrel of scotch. Anyone interested?
Robes, if you cheat, I'm going to shoot you in the foot. [Admission she's staying.]
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Atia wants to work there. She's going to be a fucking pain in the ass and I'm sorry for it. You're going to need to watch her like a hawk, but she needs to learn compassion from somewhere.
If she gets too bitchy, schedule her for mornings and I'll come in and do it with her.

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I'll play, but why do you need a barrel of scotch?
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Because it sounds like a good idea.
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If anyone is going to be looking for punishment for anything Nygma did, then it should be Snape or Mozenrath. Although I don't know the full situation, I don't understand why either of them indulged his investigation to the point of making private filters available to the Wardens, or submitted to anything more invasive. They both had the choice to refuse all of his requests for more information.
Besides which, we aren't a prosecution service. We can't seek punishment on behalf of the Barge as a whole when we have no definition of right and wrong beyond the absolute basics. If the actual victims consider the matter over, as far as I'm concerned, it's over. I don't want to be accused of rubber stamping anything, but I will respect that decision.
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Are you fucking kidding me? Did you fucking read the filters?It's about a lot more than Snape, Mozenrath, Boston and Shego. It's about setting a precedent. It's about more than just this incident.
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Collective acknowledgement changes nothing. Wardens subject to this procedure would suffer no change in status or access.
Only a uniformly acknowledged - and enforced - command structure has consequence.
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But well said.
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But thanks.
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But you're right about having to protect the inmates from the degree of harassment that Mozenrath endured. We should be allowed, if agreed upon by the warden population (or at best, given how this system works, no objections) to restrict access of the offender through the network.
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[Parker is trying her best to hold her temper. She really, really, really just wants to hit something small and cute at the moment.]
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But I'm absolutely against a vote of no confidence here. If Nygma's still recognized as a warden by the Admiral, then we need to respect that. Unnecessarily isolating him, keeping him out of the loop, makes it more difficult for him to do the job he's here for. It hurts his inmate.
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I'm in.
....If that robes comment is for Narvin he only has one set now.
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Y'know, I was pretty set on not giving a shit about any of this, before Nygma started trying to justify all of it and filling the network with his dumbass excuses. Every single one just made it more obvious that he seriously screwed up. Even I wouldn't have gone as far as he did--not anymore, anyway. TL;DR version: Basically, I agree.
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You know I want in.
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Don't worry about it. I'll keep her ass in line.
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I have to ask you about Rex sometime.
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What do you want to know?
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